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Sunday, November 12, 2017

Vic and Sadecast 074 – Five Men from Maine (11/12/17)

next graphic vscast (20:14) It’s another “special” Crisco episode. Some of you love your Crisco, so I will give you some Crisco every few days.

Meanwhile, Vic has a bonafide mystery on his hands and that means we do as well. And it’s a mystery that remains today! What are your thoughts about this? We want to know. Leave your comments.

Examine this episode more closely: 41-05-30 Five Men from Maine

“Vic and Sade” was written by Paul Rhymer.

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posted by Jimbo at 3:21 am filed in Jimbo,Nov17  


  1. I think you are correct Jimbo. These men are not from the Consolidated Kitchenware Company and are not from the Sacred Stars Lodge. Here’s what happened….

    Vic and Homer did write a book on Parade Protocol. In fact, it’s here:

    Although the 5 guys in Maine are not lodge members, they are consummate parade enthusiasts. Through a strange set of coincidences (HK Fleeber left a copy on the train which was found by D.S. Slank’s brother-in-law), the book landed in the hands of D.S Slank. When he and the other men from Maine saw what a brilliant literary masterpiece this book was, they contacted Homer, who directed them to Vic.

    So Vic finally gets the accolades and attention he deserves, well almost, as he never returns the call. Poor Vic…

    Now I know that this may appear to be all supposition, supposition on top of a fictitious show from 80 years ago…but ….true as a horse I say!

    Comment by Dave from Wisconsin — November 12, 2017 @ 7:12 am

  2. This is obviously a coded message. As you note, Hunkerman does not exist in Maine. Neither, I might add, does East Brain exist in Oregon. There is, however, one city that exists in both Maine and Oregon, and that is Portland. Prior to the official entry of the US into World War II, German U-boats from time to time would drop off spies and saboteurs in rubber rafts near coastal cities like Portland, ME. Since the “East Brain” (i.e. the brains of the Eastern operation) is currently in the far west and cannot himself travel to meet up with the team of five German agents, the agent with the code name “Vic”, “Victor” or, more likely, “Viktor” will have to make arrangements to meet up on the appointed date (Sept. 20) with the five German agents who currently “Hunker” down in Portland, ME, awaiting their contact’s supplies and instructions. Note that the names are repeated several times so that they can be jotted down and either looked up in some secret German codebook or entered into a transpositional grid that would reveal precise identities and/or locations. Herr Reimer vass indeed most clever, ja?

    Comment by Dave in Kentucky — November 12, 2017 @ 8:46 am

  3. Hmmmm. Quite klever.

    And all this after my brother went into a rant this morning about how Rhymer was anti-American (anti-WWII) or pacifist and I could not deny either as his pointed finger jabbed a fictitious hole through my heart.

    Comment by Jimbo — November 12, 2017 @ 9:20 am

  4. OK, So I’m never sure when you guys are serious or not – this is the first I’ve heard that Rhymer was a pacifist or anti-WWII. Is that serious? Any references on that? Or am I just a gullible guy?


    Comment by Dave from Wisconsin — November 12, 2017 @ 3:21 pm

  5. My brother really said this and was serious and said, “I’m not happy about it”. I said well, he didn’t really seem to support the war effort but I have no evidence either way to support your claim.

    “Well, I don’t like it”.

    Me: shoulders raise….

    (By the way Dave in Wisc) it is Chad’s messages that I cannot figure out sometimes. 🙂 Although it is apparent that Chief also has a wild hair….

    Comment by Jimbo — November 12, 2017 @ 4:30 pm

  6. Just because there is no overt mention of the war in the wartime episodes doesn’t mean that Rhymer was against US involvement in WWII. He may have thought that his show could best contribute to the war effort by taking folks on the home front’s minds off the war news for a few minutes, just as those who made screwball comedies in the Thirties contributed to the country’s morale by taking people’s minds off the Depression. Had Rhymer been overtly pacifist, like Lew Ayres for instance, I think we would have heard about it and his popularity would have sufferered (as Ayres’ did), especially since his show’s main audience was Middle America.

    Comment by Dave in Kentucky — November 12, 2017 @ 6:41 pm

  7. Actually, this WAS my argument to my brother. But then I was thinking, “Why am I taking up for Paul Rhymer?” I mean, I don’t know Paul Rhymer. Sometimes I think I do. I mean I really, really think so and then I realize that no, I don’t know him. It’s always about this time I get hungry for an Arby’s Beef and Cheddar or three and Curly Fries. Yes, I will also have a Jamocha Shake, thank you.

    Comment by Jimbo — November 12, 2017 @ 7:01 pm

  8. We do know from the V&S fan mail that people didn’t want to hear about the war in the V&S episodes. I think people saw V&S as an escape from the war. Perhaps your bother interpreted this lack of mention of the war as being against the war. No issue, just wasn’t sure if there was something about Rhymer that I didn’t know. I did look at Wikipedia again and was reminded of this: “….he worked as a cabdriver and then became a reporter with The Pantagraph, the Bloomington newspaper. He lost that job when the editor learned Rhymer had been fabricating interviews with non-existent people.”

    Sounds like he pioneered “fake news”!


    Comment by Dave from Wisconsin — November 13, 2017 @ 9:50 am

  9. Yes, he made up names of all kinds of people… sounds familiar? I would love to see the articles he wrote for the paper.

    Comment by Jimbo — November 13, 2017 @ 11:09 am

  10. Jimbo,

    Your theory makes more sense than anything I could think up.
    Lots of publishing in Maine, I think McNancy found some speculative investors for a
    Marketing piece aimed at Sky Brothers. He probably made a good amount of
    Money on the guide for wives. What better gift to get your wife.

    Comment by Chad bowers — November 14, 2017 @ 11:05 am

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