Frank Nora Show 1654 – Clone Paranoid (2/22/11)
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1:21:47 – Little Christmas villages, Department 56, filming models of cities, Presidents’ Day, Important Ideas, rules and guidelines for the channel, bus station alarm, line police, Chicken Over Veggies, Howard Stern, Opie & Anthony, offensive material, the world is in shades of gray – not back and white, this society is insane, bad words, zero tolerance policies, cold weather, usage of commercial music, advertising, promotion, shoelace problems, hippie building changes, icicles, bingo, lo-fi archives, kitten animation, someone who looks like me in the Fischerspooner music video “Emerge” from 2002, my familiarity with what I look like in pictures and video, Warren Fischer looks like me, whistling, freaking out, cloning theory, a clone is like a twin, Attack of the Clones, Jango Fett, ability to recognize faces, The Prince and The Pauper, clone paranoia, laser printer, pasta lunch, Overnightscape Central, Midnight Citizen, weird snow dust, Michael Keaton, troublesome pockets, caught up with Fringe, I love Fringe, alternate realities, Dr. Walter Bishop, Peter Bishop, Olivia Dunham, Twin Peaks references, Dr. Jacoby, Josie Packard, profanity example, NetFlix, Dark Shadows, Barnabas Collins, Inherent Vice, Red Dwarf, video services, Mystery Science Theater 3000, advanced ancient societies, cloning experiment theory, White Horse cigars, White Owl cigars, George Burns, anti-check fraud pens, Radio Undefined, Bluffcosm.com slogans, going to see the Green Day musical “American Idiot”, The Monkees, new Guess store, new fiber cream “Dishevel”, and warm up at the bookstore.
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Attribution: by Frank Nora – more info at onsug.com
Released February 2011 on The Overnightscape Underground (onsug.com), an Internet talk radio channel focusing on a freeform monologue style, with diverse and fascinating hosts.
Your show makes me want to smoke cigars ALL the time. Also, Michael Keaton was in Multiplicity; his clones didn’t try to wage war with him, just tried to score with his wife.
Comment by Mike — February 23, 2011 @ 1:53 pm
With one 28 second clip, all music in my shows are written and recorded my myself or my relative in the CZ Republic. For that 28 sec clip I had the permission of its creator. Between the three of us, we have never received dollar 1 from ASCAP or any other royalty enforcers.I
Comment by Escspist — February 28, 2011 @ 4:16 pm
Hey…how would it be treated to perform “cover versions” of songs in a podcast? I’m just bringing this up because I’ve been considering doing this in an upcoming Gunkcast.
But I was not clear on your definition of “fair use” Frank! I heard you say you feel you have that right to play a short clip of a song as “fair use” but then shortly after that you mentioned in your guidelines for Onsug not to play any commercial music (be it a full length tune or even 10 seconds of one). This seems to contradict the whole fair use idea!
I can understand restrictions when we are talking about releasing something you are going to be making $$$ on, but we are talking free public domain podcasts here.
Comment by Smidge Kurdlebaum — March 3, 2011 @ 8:08 pm
Smidge, here are my views…
Cover songs – very confusing in terms of all the laws involved – I would tend to think it’s better not to do them. Here’s some more info: http://ask.metafilter.com/19209/Legality-of-distrubiting-free-cover-songs
Fair use – song clips can be played in the context of a discussion about the music – but the law is extremely vague. Personally, I try and keep the clips short, and ONLY to illustrate a point I am talking about. Using music as an intro – for its pure entertainment value – in my opinion is not fair use.
In terms of the law, I don’t think any distinction is made between for-profit and non-profit uses.
The situation is horrible and the laws need to be changed. But for right now, this is where we stand.
Comment by Frank — March 3, 2011 @ 10:23 pm
Yes…I agree about the situation being horrible. I just checked out that link…very interesting! Thanks for that info! It never really crossed my mind about the “cover” song thing. But tell me of any band who plays cover songs “live” and who actually will seek out getting permission. I guarantee no band does that (unless they will be recording for a live album or something). I was considering doing my idea in using short “clips” of the cover songs for my podcast. Now I wonder if that would be considered fair use? I’m a little bummed to think I would have to go through hoops here!
Also, good to see you’re so into Fringe now. Did you make to that time-loop episode I told you about? Still was really one of my favorites!
Comment by Smidge — March 4, 2011 @ 9:38 am
It is my understanding that you can play cover songs live, so long as the venue pays the fees to ASCAP/BMI.
As far as your proposed playing of short clips of cover songs in a podcast – as long as you understand the fair use law (as much as anyone can – it’s very vague) and present the clips in such a context, I think it could be considered okay (that is, you can have confidence in your own mind that you have a reasonable defense).
Yes I am all caught up on Fringe!! Can’t wait for new episodes!
Comment by Frank — March 4, 2011 @ 10:39 am