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Thursday, March 22, 2012

The Overnightscape 862: The Carleton Branch (3/22/12)

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1:14:15 – Frank in NYC talking about alternate timelines and a whole lot more. F1812

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posted by Frank at 7:57 pm filed in Frank,Mar12  

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  1. Wow, what an ending! Are u gonna post pics? Myers it was a sign from the Carlton branch frank, letting you know in someway that your on track.

    Comment by Eddie — March 23, 2012 @ 8:05 am

  2. Have you ever read Parallelities by Alan Dean Foster? Great book. The main character winds up in several parallel universes and meets himself in a couple of them. It’s both fascinating and very funny. I think you’d really like it.

    The other book that popped into my head while listening to this episode was Replay by Ken Grimwood, but I think you’ve read that and discussed it on the show before. That’s one of my favorite novels.

    One more thing: at 54:48 of this episode I could swear I can hear a woman in the background saying “Overnightscape.” It’s right after you mention Jean Shepherd doing his show from the building you were passing. She may have been saying something else, but to me it sounded a lot like Overnightscape.

    Comment by Shambles — March 23, 2012 @ 8:40 am

  3. Shambles, definitely agree on Replay by Ken Grimwood, so much so that i mailed Frank a copy. Such a good time travel adventure. Thanks for the Parallelities recommend.
    by the way Frank, check this out

    http://www.ssa.gov/cgi-bin/babyname.cgi
    baby name popularity search available by name for the last hundred or so years. lots of fun.

    Comment by Chad Bowers — March 23, 2012 @ 9:51 am

  4. btw, the coin toss like any other chaotic event is actually deterministic. Although these event can become very complicated they remain deterministic. There is no random. Back to your example of the coin, given the weight of the coin, the temperature, the air currents, gravity, the forces you applied to the coin, it could have only happened one way.

    Comment by Chad Bowers — March 23, 2012 @ 10:36 am

  5. the main issue we face is that there are always two realities for each of us.

    Reality one: consists of your observable universe
    Reality two: consists of everything that happens in your head.

    This explains all magic and all religion and everything you have ever felt or observed.

    Comment by Chad Bowers — March 23, 2012 @ 10:40 am

  6. Chad, there is no random? 🙁 I’ve built my life upon the rule that there is a force of randomosity that must be embraced.

    So I’m going to pretend I didn’t read that post of yours.

    Cheers, man! 🙂

    Comment by Shambles — March 23, 2012 @ 11:07 am

  7. Any of them books available in audio form?

    Comment by Eddie — March 23, 2012 @ 11:08 am

  8. There’s an audiobook of Replay: http://www.amazon.com/Replay-Ken-Grimwood/dp/1400160103/ref=sr_1_1_title_2_aud?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1332532376&sr=1-1 but I can’t find one for Parallelities.

    Comment by Shambles — March 23, 2012 @ 11:54 am

  9. Good point shambles 🙂 Thanks.

    Comment by Chad Bowers — March 23, 2012 @ 12:11 pm

  10. eerie… good thing we are protected by the cumulative effect of the entertanium. i am becoming convinced that it appeases the annunaki and they evoke more crazy fun stuff…

    Comment by PQ Ribber — March 23, 2012 @ 3:06 pm

  11. Thx shambles

    Comment by Eddie — March 24, 2012 @ 12:03 am

  12. Longest comment thread anyone? Care to add your thoughts?

    Comment by Eddie — March 24, 2012 @ 12:04 am

  13. I posted the pics in the Facebook group.

    Parallelities sounds great, Shambles! And Chad, I still have the Replay you sent, I really need to read it!

    I listened at 54:48 and it does soung like she says “overnightscape.com”… weird…

    Here’s another name site… you can see a graph of the name “Frank” plummeting in popularity…

    http://www.babynamewizard.com/voyager#prefix=frank&ms=false&exact=true

    Chad, on determinism and the existence of separate outside (observable) and inside (in the mind) worlds – this is just one interpretation of reality. My top theory is that there is indeed randomness – that the coin toss is random – and that the physical factors serve the random outcome.

    Also, the idea of supernatural beings, gods, time travel, alternate worlds, alternate timelines, telepathy, magic… all this… to me could be ultimately understood in a “scientific” way. We ourselves could be very limited in terms of what we can observe – so our logical conclusions only cover the tiny slice of reality we can perceive.

    I think it’s good to expand one’s perspective, taking into account the limitations of the human being, and being open to the possibility of a much larger world.

    PQ, I think the Annunaki are as pop culture obsessed as we are, so I hope they enjoy our shows!

    Comment by Frank — March 24, 2012 @ 6:31 am

  14. Loved that ending with the “timeline” bus…wow! I’ve had many such oddities happen to me (though for the life of me I cannot think of an example right now). I also like to bring up the point of “deja vu” in these theories as well. Could something that happened in an alternate timeline cause us to experience deja vu? Perhaps that’s the point of what we are getting at here. Some event occuring repeatedly that we always strive to get past it & after so many attempts we start to recognize or have that familiar feeling about a situation. Very interesting stuff!

    I have this crazy multi-part Gunkcast (1st part is already out) which is a big parody of several big sci-fi series (won’t mention names here). I just thought, I totally forgot to bring the alternate timeline thing into it…I may need to do some script revisions! 🙂

    Comment by Smidge Kurdlebaum — March 28, 2012 @ 7:37 am

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